Me try.

Alright, I'll clear things up:

In the distant past, I provided that sound effect, originally called DARKSTEP.wav, to CBM for Darkman 1's step sound. It would later be used by MM8BDM with my consent. The actual source of the sound effect is most likely some other NES game I ripped it from ages ago, and maybe edited a bit or not, memory is fuzzy as it happened way too long ago.

I'm personally not too attached or worried about its actual sourcing and authorship, as generally I'm pretty lax on the sound contributions I've made and how they're used: you may choose to credit me or not, I generally don't care, this is what I tell people often when asked about permission to use my stuff. Just asking me for permission and acknowledging that it isn't yours is more than enough for me cuz its an act of respect. And even that I cannot control or force people to do, as I have learned over the years with how people have used CBM content very liberally and often even in spite of me and the project I worked on.

Whoever provided you with content and said that they made it all, either lied to your team or provided false or incomplete information. At least in this case, they did. If you did not know the proper sourcing of this one particular and tiny example of content, it's okay. But it would be wise to not pretend to have an aggressive control over the content you use unless you've done all your homework extensively and know where you're getting things from, and from who you're getting it.

You may remove it or not, that's not something I can control. But I do suggest you at least credit the MM8BDM team for the resources that your mod uses, just as they credit me and CBM for the resources that they use from it. I think it's a matter of respect.

Please do not:

- Claim that your team made EVERYTHING they use in TNT: they did not, and they do not properly source where they got everything from and who actually made it.
- Claim that it is your "property": it is not.
- Prevent the real creators of the content used in your mod (be it your team or a third party) from having their content removed from the mod at their request, and that it will remain in "your possesion": not doing so is unfair and disrespectful.

After searching old DMs, it would seem that yes, you're correct. I granted you that permission three years ago (July 7th, 2021). However, that was three years ago, and with no release until now (unless I'm mistaken and it had its own thread on the old forum), I figured you would've asked again just to double check before releasing. Additionally, I granted that permission on the condition that you credit me, by name, for the original.

My name is not mentioned at all within your README or any other document that I've tried searching for.

welcome to my first ever mod for mm8bdmv6b
this is mmv-skirmish-bots-moddedv3
it makes all robots have their original weapons
but with some weaponmods in mind the wep mods you need are
allanxweps
encoreweps
mmdweps [requires mmd skins]
mmrfweps [requires mmrf skins]
mmuweps
rncweps [requires rncskins]
touhougensokyoweps_eternalv7earlyaccess_h
ukiweps
vileweps
and you need skins for best experience
mm11skins
mmdskins
mmrfskins
rncskins
i also highly encourage you to get miscfixesv2
https://allfearthesentinel.com/zandronum/wadinfo.php?name=mmv-skirmish-bots-main-v2.1-moddedv3.pk3
and also check out some other skirmishbot mods that i also made
mm11skirmishbots
rncskirmishbotsaddon
mmdskirmishbots
mmrfskirmishbots
combine them all and you'll get one heck of a show
i know it's alot of mods but you'll have a good blast
and honestly i wouldn't mind if you make modifications to it too
now i can't show screenshots unfortunately because i have no idea how to do it and it's confusing
anyways i don't have anything else to say but have fun with it

If you're going to make a ToS or EULA type thing for your content, there's a few things you need to know. First, these types of documents aren't *actually* legally binding. I'm not a lawyer but there's a lot of nuance and loopholes for that stuff. If you're going to write one of these, you need to make sure it's available for people to read *BEFORE* they download it. If by somehow this thing had any chance of holding up in court (again, it doesn't), then it would be immediately thrown out because someone downloaded and accepted to your terms without even reading what they are in the first place.

Speaking of ToS, I'm flattered you decided to copy approximately 21.5% of my own agreement, of which I've included some of the more egregious examples below. Although, I shouldn't really call it that, since when I made my document I wrote it as more of a set of guidelines that, ultimately, entrusts this community with my work. You know, being fine with people sharing my work as long as they credit me (albeit written in a long-winded way), people's assets belonging to them, and just a general "I'm not responsible for your seizures". The thing is, this other 78.5% of what you've done there? It completely removes that nuance. It looks like you've only copied the parts that interested you, their outlines and corporate speak, without reading how they're used in context with everything else. This in turn makes much of what you've written, or attempt to get across, contradict itself.

"[tnt] The Nano Tower's contents (Sounds, musics, sprites, images, story, characters, etc) shouldn't be modified or used anywhere else unless told otherwise by their respective owner Angelius. Editing these resources infringes on the respective owner's rights and creative property and will not be tolerated. Contents made by members of [tntpt] The Nano Tower Projects team are property of Angelius what this means is that even if a member of [tntpt] The Nano Tower Projects Team doesn't want to participate on [tntpt] The Nano Tower Projects Team the provided content will still remain in [tntpt] The Nano Tower Projects Team and Angelius's possession."

Here, for instance, you claim that the entirety of the project's work (presumably, including your team's) belongs to its "respective" owner, which is you, and only you. This is further proven by another statement in this document:

"Only Angelius is responsible for this project meaning only him can edit this project or give permission for others to perform this action, the same also holds any right to take down any projects that uses [tnt] The Nano Tower's files, story or characters."

Additionally, if your content has no association with Megaman or 8BDM as you say it does, then it shouldn't feel the need to try and brag about its accomplishments in comparison to those communities. It should be able to stand strong on its own legs, with no support, as your claims state.

Look. This isn't my project and these aren't my rules. But, if you're going to do this sort of thing, you need to be upfront honest with your potential user base. Your terms need to make sense and you need to not contradict yourself, especially since at the time of writing, it appears as if your project still relies on part of 8BDM in order to accomplish its goal (IE: using these forums and not the doom ones).


I understand I don't "own" how I do my formatting, but generally speaking, approximately 15% to 20% of plagiarism is deemed "acceptable" before it just looks bad. In my opinion, that's even a little too high, as I would only aim for about 5% to 10%.

Can you please remove MMTFTSPS.wav from this mod?

It is originally a sound effect from Class Based Modification called DARKSTEP.wav (I have been in charge of sound design for CBM for many many years), later on taken by MM8BDM (where I am credited for sound effect assistance).

I would not like to be associated with this mod either, so please remove it and find a suitable replacement for it.

Your "terms of use and agreement" within the mod's pk3 file (lol a doom mod with tos) are not legally binding, and frankly are disrespectful after taking other people's work and calling it yours, and then attempt to prevent those people from exercising their legitimate ownership over them by rejecting the right to remove them.

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Not to mention your attempts at making it seem like modifying this mod's content is prohibited. Not that there's people that would want to, but it is a pretty weak and disrespectful argument to stand on. This community is based on mutual understanding and collaborative efforts, and anyone that attempts to undermine these is a rightful point of mockery, and eventually a foul legacy of what we do not want to be as a community: it's honestly not in your best interest to be preemptively close-minded and overly controlling.

I will not argue or ask further, and you may do whatever you want.

Not so much once you consider what of "innovative" the modding community of this game has done on the past few years. The Nano Tower is meant to be different and to change perspectives which can bring new players to the game which is also something i don't see too often. MM8BDM itself is a good Doom mod that has brought a lot of new players with V6A considering it brought tons of content and innovative boss fights, but when it comes to the Multiplayer modding community, its stagnated. One good example is how so many veterans have left this game, the majority of them stating the same thing "the game doesn't change" so i did this which is different. I hope that there are some open minded peoples who will understand what i am talking about, other than that, i cannot help anyone out with that.

Comes off as pretentious.

Weekly mod news 22/9/2024 "Ninjas & glue reworks & touch ups"

Bloons mod: "Final ninja additions & glue monkey's reworks"
1. Sticky bomb now properly works on all moab class bloons and has had a damage nerf so you can't one-shot MOABs with a 004 sticky bomb, but you can one shot a MOAB to a fortified BFB with a 005 sticky bomb!
2. ninja monkey shop updated to allow purchase of the newly added ninja melee weapons & techniques.
3. fixed a bug that would give shinobi buffs without being a shinobi tactics ninja monkey.
4. Upgraded shadow doubles are now implemented, some gain new attacks with certain upgrades, top path has powerful dash attacks, middle path can sabotage bloons & the bottom path can throw caltrops and drop bombs from above.
5. Ninja monkey flash bombs & sticky bombs are now fired if you use altfire mid-air, a caltrop will be thrown if you are on the ground. (For other paths with 002 crosspath altfire will just throw a caltrop unless you have a full ability bar.)
6. glue monkey code optimized
7. Glue monkey middle path charge shot changed to a glue stream that launches the user backward with high pierce, the old one was a glue pillar that would rain glue around it. I changed it to be more fun but also the glue pillar wasn't reliable at all.
8. Glue monkey bottom path shotgun charge attack given a pierce cap, relentless glue & super glue leave puddles if it doesn't hit a bloon.
9. relentless glue puddle timer increased: 4 seconds > 8 seconds
10. Made the final missing Glue gunner hud 005-SuperGlue, now all the HUDs are done

Other:
1. Finished a video: Vclasses shenanigans 4

Plans for next week? Next week will be a mod news **hiatus**, yes I won't be working on the usual for the week but instead working on some other stuff and taking a short break from the Bloons mod & platformer mod. The week afterward I'll be back to the regular stuff!

I'm aware that I posted this early but I did get all the things I wanted to do before Sunday afternoon.

About the running button, this will probably be changed on the Test 23 version because some keyboards does not allow more than two keys being pressed at once and that is the unique reason as to why i am going to change it, the majority of major triple A games actually forces it onto people like COD, Battlefield and many more so i don't see why this would be a problem.

About the map, i guess you didn't read the thread or the help menu inside the mod, The Nano Tower is made to be a multiplayer experience as many other maps around the community also does the same. However, i can understand that the community isn't too attracted by this type of mod anymore, i am still keeping it for the nostalgia and also because The Nano Tower has some huge amounts of work put into it alongside with The Fog Guardian class.